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Why are there no Haynes manuals for the recent citroen cars?
And what do people use for looking up torque values for nuts an bolts?
 

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Not many do. No
Have you tried contacting Citroen and asking where these values are published?

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I was in citroen today, they say they get them direct from their own online technical systems that only citroen can access.
 

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It's probably a volume thing. Apparently Porsche sell more cars than Citroen do in Australia so without a market, why produce a product.
That said I purchased a 'soft' copy of the factory manual which runs within a virtual machine.
Let me know what specific data your looking for and I'll try to find it.
 

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I need to change the front shocks, so the torque for the shock to hub bolts, and arb links would be useful. And I'll probably just change the rear when at it, so rear shock bolt torques. Thanks.
where did you get the soft copymanual?

It's odd as there are a lot of citroen in Europe, about a third of the cars in france are citroen, I'd even settle for a "le haynes" version, numbers are numbers.
 

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Hopefully this helps you out without causing any "forum issues"


Front Suspension torque data:

Reference Description Tightening torque
(1) Suspension upper turret fixing nut 7,5 da.Nm
(2) Nut - Fixing of suspension unit to body 7,5 da.Nm
(3) Nut - Anti-roll bar link rod upper fixing 5 da.Nm
(4) Screw - Strut to pivot fixing 8 da.Nm
(5) Fixing of pivot lower ball joint to pivot 23 da.Nm
(6) Nut - Pivot lower ball-joint fixing 4,2 da.Nm

Reference Description Tightening torque
(7) Nut - Suspension arm fixing on subframe 11,1 da.Nm
(8) Nut - Anti-roll bar link rod lower fixing 5 da.Nm
(9) Screw - Anti-roll bar bearing fixing 10 da.Nm
(10) Sub-frame fixing bolt 9,8 da.Nm
(11) Fixing screw : Sub-frame strengthener 10 da.Nm

Reference Description Tightening torque
(12) Screw - Fixing subframe extension 5 da.Nm
(13) Screw - Fixing front lower subframe crossmember 5 da.Nm
(14) Nuts - Clip 2 da.Nm
(15) Sub-frame fixing bolt 9,8 da.Nm
 

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Thanks a lot, saved in case of problems.
Just to double check, is "pivot" the citroen name for the hub carrier?
 

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Yes 'Pivot' is the hub carrier.
 

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Well that turned out to be a bugger of a job. Seized nuts on the strut tops that that split the part the allan key goes in meaning no way to hold it. Angle grinder out to cut through the nut, and had to do the same on the second nut as the threads were all corroded.
Both strut bearing were gone, One so bad it would it would move left and right a good quarter inch,and the other was rusted solid.
 

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Pics for any that are technically interested:


Not what you expect on a new-ish car
 

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Wow, Certainly not. What year is your DS ?
 

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It's a 2011, so 5 or 6 years old. Everything else underneath looks not too bad, clean-ish.
I've worked on a lot of older vauxhalls, and they have a similar front strut, and never had any trouble like this when changing strut top bearings or suspension components. I was really disappointed as a newer car is normally great for working on compared to old.

Anyway, where it all went wrong at the start:



New bearings (extra grease over them too!), shocks and springs anditsimply glides over bump and it should, not clatter and bang.



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Well done.
 

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Indeed. Well done!!
 

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That's nothing really swapping engines out, or strip downs are much more fun.
The bearing that's not rusted looks to have split due to the damage. The new bearing had one bottom face and one top face. On the old one you can see the line where the bottom face (facing up in the photo) is in two parts, and that inner part is what was moving left/right.
 

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As photobucket done their thing and crippled all forums, here are the photos that are missing:
Shock thread spilt, both sides had split at the top:



Mr Grinder to the rescue:




And top mount bearings when out:

 
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